tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post6257651120446033911..comments2023-10-11T09:18:00.114-04:00Comments on Journalism & Society: Don't Start with a Conclusion, says Street.Geohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13931847026373746798noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-25352405221285341222008-03-04T20:41:00.000-05:002008-03-04T20:41:00.000-05:00Really thought that John Street gave a very good s...Really thought that John Street gave a very good speech to any journalists hoping to make it in today's world. For every person nice person who is willing to give you whatever interviews and information you want, there is going to be someone like John Street who is going to be difficult. Based solely off that I felt like his speech was very worthwhile because it is a very good look in how to handle someone like this. He gave many important tips, which to me meant know your subjects and their tendencies. I mean in class the tape-recorder debate came up and in several of my classes I have heard to not bring tape recorders, but John Street wants you to have one because he is naturally skeptical of journalists and wants to make sure that he is not misquoted. Therefore it seems like Street was trying to help us out, although it was sort of backhanded during his speech. I am glad that he came to class, just so we could see the opposite side of journalism because you know it will happen eventually.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-54993584101892061002008-03-03T17:09:00.000-05:002008-03-03T17:09:00.000-05:00everybody is biased about everything. people are ...everybody is biased about everything. people are biased on what they like, what food they eat, etc. the media will always be biased. once you form an opinion about something, you dont let it go, not that easily.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-83899651292794842342008-02-28T10:30:00.000-05:002008-02-28T10:30:00.000-05:00(I write this as a non-biased, non-fan/non-hater o...(I write this as a non-biased, non-fan/non-hater of Mr. Street.)<BR/><BR/>I think he is very intelligent, I also think his speech was engaging, he never lost my attention. He had no errors in physical presentation. However, I felt like his 50 minute monologue was full of a whole bunch of nothing. I'm not even sure if HE knows what message he was trying to send...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-12964774390724140172008-02-28T07:01:00.000-05:002008-02-28T07:01:00.000-05:00(no comment on Mr. Mayor besides he was clearly hu...(no comment on Mr. Mayor besides he was clearly hug/love deprived as a child)<BR/><BR/>Geo-<BR/>I was impressed with how responsive this semesters class is to your post. Then, I realized that a lot of these post were you? Hilarious. Furthermore, I wouldn't be suprised if the "anonymous" person who wrote "George Miller rules" was you, but since one can never be sure- way to go Zach, I'd claim it too if I were you!<BR/>-None other, FG<BR/><BR/>ps: Why couldn't we get any cool speakers that caused a debate between students? Geesh.B Harg.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03614808341964136796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-22564572664945703342008-02-28T06:50:00.000-05:002008-02-28T06:50:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.B Harg.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03614808341964136796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-5199785176597477882008-02-28T06:49:00.000-05:002008-02-28T06:49:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.B Harg.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03614808341964136796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-10926253665367547512008-02-28T00:30:00.000-05:002008-02-28T00:30:00.000-05:00I was the first anonymous.I figured since I alread...I was the first anonymous.<BR/>I figured since I already commented that my name would have just shown up.<BR/><BR/>so about that A...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-73552514398221609812008-02-27T23:33:00.000-05:002008-02-27T23:33:00.000-05:00I thought this was an interesting meeting, it was ...I thought this was an interesting meeting, it was a good introduction to the way that people who want to avoid speaking about certain things find ways to do so even under scrutiny. I felt that Mr. Street had some interesting points about the journalism word but in general its seemed he was merely attacking the majority of the buissness due to some personal agenda created by his mistreatment in the media,Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14336880278157130559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-3144470848689512552008-02-27T13:48:00.000-05:002008-02-27T13:48:00.000-05:00Being a product of Montgomery County i was a littl...Being a product of Montgomery County i was a little disappointed that he didn't show it any love. He neglected to inform of his ties with the Conshohocken and Norristown. But with all that said his information was mildly informative. He pretty much just talked about the basics that is common sense. He was also a little to cocky for my likings also. I could really care less if he ran 14 times for office and won 14 times, that makes him look worse because he obviously should have plenty of experience in politics and he allowed Philadelphia to go down the wrong path.DanSigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11217487089930547339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-8203740534653936702008-02-26T13:49:00.000-05:002008-02-26T13:49:00.000-05:00His "tips" are probably, "be nice to the politicia...His "tips" are probably, "be nice to the politician while said politician pulls the wool over your eyes;" or pick pockets you. If you listen to Street you will never get the dirt. You will not be the gatekeepers and you will be doing a disservice to your communities. "Mr Street, why did the feds bug your office." "Mr Street, why were you using a police officer to keep your space in line for a iPhone while people were dying." Mr Street why are all your friends in jail for pay-to-play while you now work for Temple?" I wanted to take his class. It would have been money wasted because he would have given me a "F", or I would have been thrown out. He is a politian, a very smooth talker. Don't believe everything that comes out of his mouth. <BR/>Paul Klein (former J1111)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-70718056593236010572008-02-26T00:18:00.000-05:002008-02-26T00:18:00.000-05:00I enjoyed John Street's visit. I thought he gave s...I enjoyed John Street's visit. I thought he gave some good tips toward interviewing and handling media. It's true that he holds bias, but isn't it up to an individual to weed through another person's bias and form their own opinion?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-50021084786116848552008-02-25T23:02:00.000-05:002008-02-25T23:02:00.000-05:00I loved the visit with John Street. He's way nicer...I loved the visit with John Street. He's way nicer than I thought and I learned a great deal of things that I was oblivious to before his visit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-85044506678901320522008-02-25T22:19:00.000-05:002008-02-25T22:19:00.000-05:00I think that even though John Street appeared to h...I think that even though John Street appeared to have some biases he gave really good information. No matter what we think about him, he knows how people in his position deal with journalists. So when we want to go interview someone like him it's going to be important to get as much info. from them as we can so we can write something that will be useful and interesting to our readers. He was telling us how to do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-11973300008131355592008-02-25T11:23:00.000-05:002008-02-25T11:23:00.000-05:00I wish I was there. I probably would have been ask...I wish I was there. I probably would have been asked to leave with some of my questions. Folks a politician is not supposed to like us. Everyone around this guy is in jail for pay-to-play. Why? Public safety is in the gutter. Why? Why did his house catch on fire? Rip him apart. Go for the jugular. Don't be nice. My first question, "How did you get away with not paying any gas bills?" <BR/>Street has a bias against the media. I wish I was there. I would have loved to see him glare at me.<BR/>Paul Klein (fomer J1111 student)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-4355365580292456012008-02-24T20:49:00.000-05:002008-02-24T20:49:00.000-05:00I really enjoyed John Street's visit. I found him ...I really enjoyed John Street's visit. I found him to be very informative and interesting, I wish we could have had a bit more time to really pick his brain. Although, I doubt whether or not he would be willing to address the class again, since some of the students treated him somewhat rude. I would hope that we can extend a little more decorum with future guests.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-4535033768485056092008-02-24T17:31:00.000-05:002008-02-24T17:31:00.000-05:00David HallWhen I made the point about people not t...David Hall<BR/><BR/>When I made the point about people not trusting the media that was based on the response received when it was asked in class. There were basically no hands raised when Prof. Miller asked if anyone trust the media.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-37538661267683745292008-02-24T16:11:00.000-05:002008-02-24T16:11:00.000-05:00I was actually offended when Mayor Street said tha...I was actually offended when Mayor Street said that broadcast journalism wasn’t real journalism. In a sense, maybe it isn’t as hard-hitting but it’s still journalism. Talking to a group of young people who some are aspiring broadcast journalists; I really don’t think that was appropriate. Also, I can see where the media has portrayed him in a negative light at times. I felt he was very abrasive when answering questions. I’m not taking away any of the good he did for the city of Philadelphia, I’m just saying I can see where the media has done him wrong by his attitude and demeanor. On the other hand, Mayor Street gave great advice on becoming a well-informed, prepared journalist.Amanda DiPaolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16959138148235847682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-88676973588836717312008-02-23T20:52:00.000-05:002008-02-23T20:52:00.000-05:00I thought it was nice of street to give us tips ab...I thought it was nice of street to give us tips about journalism, but honestly, is he a journalist? I didn't really want his tips I more so wanted information about how he felt as far is improvements that could be made to journalism. <BR/><BR/>I think the media can be bias, like we talked about at the start of the semester, its hard to write a paper about the strength of the mets when your a philllies fan. I do think however, that street made it seem as though the media was out to get him. Like he didn't do much wrong it was more so the media that screwed his term.K.Gorsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13476505386793970644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-33004889114439165582008-02-23T19:26:00.000-05:002008-02-23T19:26:00.000-05:00I, like every other person trusts what I want to/t...I, like every other person trusts what I want to/think I should.<BR/><BR/>I have no way of ever knowing what is true and not true all the time.<BR/><BR/>Sometimes it may be the papers.<BR/>Sometimes it may be Street.<BR/><BR/>Glad that's over.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>It was definitely nice to see him come nonetheless. He definitely said some interesting things about what to do properly as journalist (show up on time, bring a tape recorder, be candid, etc etc,).<BR/><BR/><BR/>Donnie I think you make a great point. If we don't trust things we read/hear we kind of indirectly tell people not to trust us (sorta). It's a really tricky situation. How can we change those thoughts? Of course what we write/say may seem unbiased (to us), but filtered through several other eyes may we be biased?<BR/><BR/>It's hard to communicate our thoughts the same way as when we write them down as when other people read what was written down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-81260483179766632212008-02-23T17:34:00.000-05:002008-02-23T17:34:00.000-05:00I didn't get to see him speak (since I am no longe...I didn't get to see him speak (since I am no longer in the class) but I have read all, and i do mean ALL the comments. So I'm wondering, if you (david hall) or anyone else do not trust the media, and you want to go INTO the media, are you saying that we should not trust anything you write? <BR/><BR/>Street said the media was elitist. Do you think he is wrong? You have to admit that most media is owned by large corporations which represent a few, very rich, very powerful, very ELITE men who only care about profits. Look at where the money in media comes from. Advertising. And ads are not cheap. So again, the ELITE get their ads run, their views expressed and others don't.<BR/><BR/>Finally, Street claimed media bias. This is particularly true with politicians. When they run for office, you will find both sides of the story. But once they get IN office, people are more concerned about what they are doing WRONG. And while the media is to serve as a check on government, do you not think that constantly reporting mistakes or errors does not negatively affect public image, and therefore his overall effectiveness as a mayor, or politician in general?<BR/><BR/>I know these are a lot of questions, but I would appreciate answers from anyone up to the challenge.<BR/><BR/>J111 veteran.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-64529971442154168702008-02-23T15:30:00.000-05:002008-02-23T15:30:00.000-05:00Although directed at you it was meant to be a gene...Although directed at you it was meant to be a general statement directed towards the people that were so shocked he was defensive. So with that you have a point but my argument still remains the same. What i don't understand is if you don't trust anything the media says in which i believe we all agree with. Then you don't trust anything Street says. So at this point who do you trust. I appreciate the fact that he came to see us and i don't think that if he was asked he would come back. Its a matter of respect. I'm sorry Prof. Miller i know were trying to stick to the issues but what good was there to come out and asking that question. It was asked with negative intensions. Media is very bias but people are still people. Like the anonymous blogger said, "John Street was mayor what have any of you done". Can we show a little respect. O yea and "George Miller rules" damn almost forgot that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-66699965594763122532008-02-23T14:46:00.000-05:002008-02-23T14:46:00.000-05:00I know that politicians usually give lengthy unnec...I know that politicians usually give lengthy unnecessary answers but damn we're they right. I never saw some one try to avoid being direct and to the point as much as he did. I felt that he was only there to defend himself. I thought government was not supposed to make us feel skeptical about the media. He practically contradicted our use of being in that class, which I felt was wrong. He provided no details on how media helped out his career or had gotten their details right. He only stood up there and told us how to conform and become quiet journalists that are too afraid of exposing any of the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-27585132930417710522008-02-23T13:35:00.000-05:002008-02-23T13:35:00.000-05:00I don't think this was supposed to be a friendly g...I don't think this was supposed to be a friendly gathering. It was just an honest exchange of information. John Street is not famous for his honesty. The bringing up of the article was keeping a man accountable, who has not been so in the past. I also tried to bring up the misappropriation of funds for the afterschool programming, to which of course he denied. He went on a tangent about how he was in control of everything that had to do with it... that's only more of a reason why he could have made that "mistake." We should realize how honest the people are who are talking to us and not always take them at their word. Bringing up things that aren't so pleasant gets more out of people than a nice, superficial conversation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-78835576392022178122008-02-23T11:59:00.000-05:002008-02-23T11:59:00.000-05:00Focus, people.The topic is Mayor John Street and h...Focus, people.<BR/><BR/>The topic is Mayor John Street and his presentation. Not who is or isn't an ***hole.<BR/><BR/>Seriously ... bias in the media? Anyone?<BR/><BR/>- George (the diplomatic teacher)Geohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13931847026373746798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6441166968399353218.post-65315453859213107442008-02-23T11:29:00.000-05:002008-02-23T11:29:00.000-05:00I enjoy debates, but I'm just saying if you're gon...I enjoy debates, but I'm just saying if you're gonna have to resort to calling someone an asshole or whatever you totally invalidate your arguement.<BR/><BR/>And "Then you get mad and call him defensive." I never got mad or called him defensive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com